Ricky Martin's Startup Aims to Bring His New Audio Technique to Other Industries

Grammy-winning record producer Jaycen Joshua was in the middle of working on Ricky Martin's newest release, "Pausa," when the Puerto Rican superstar decided to change course.

"He sent me this song that was done in this technique and said 'Jaycen, I want to do this but I want it to be bigger'," Joshua told dot.LA.

The track Martin sent employed a spatial audio technique that renders sounds into more dimensions than the typical stereo format.


Alongside computer scientist and electrical engineer Michael Seaberg, Joshua – who boasts over 60 number one hits including Beyoncé's "Single Ladies" and "Despacito" by Luis Fonsi and Justin Bieber – searched for ways to get Martin what he wanted.

"You can't say no to Ricky," Joshua said. "He's one of the nicest human beings ever."

But they couldn't quite find it. So they developed it themselves.

The new technique can be heard in Martin's re-release of "Pausa," dubbed the "headphone mix."

"We struck gold, and called Ricky immediately. He came to the studio and heard what we came up with and his mind was blown," Joshua said.

The effort resulted in the formation of Martin Music Lab Inc., and the development of a patent-pending immersive audio technique the startup calls Orbital Audio.

"This whole thing came about because of being cooped up at home during the pandemic," said Martin. "I was going out of my mind and what usually helps in those instances is music. I always say that music heals and that's the idea with Orbital Audio."

The technique builds upon earlier audio innovations, giving users a multidimensional listening experience accessible through headphones. For example, a song's vocals may sound as if they are slowly circling a listener's head, backed by a distant-sounding electric guitar far ahead and to the left, as a whispered voice comes in from behind.

Although the team believes it has achieved a breakthrough in a technology that has in one form or another been around for quite some time, that remains to be seen. Just this year, a Billie Eilish track recorded with "8D" technology made the rounds to great fanfare among audiophiles.

Audio technologist and entrepreneur Sharooz Raoofi told dot.LA he found the Eilish track to be "sonically much more impressive" than the "Pausa" Orbital Audio recordings.

To be fair, Orbital's team said the version that is currently available was rushed to re-release because Martin, whom Joshua described as "very spiritual," wanted it out by the end of July as he "felt it was pivotal to release for the transfer of energy to the masses." Joshua says the technology has since improved.

The pending patents do not list many details, but after listening to the "Pausa" recordings, Raoofi surmises that the team has created digital signal processing technology that enables it to create "audio illusions."

"It's a neat way of mixing and adds a fun dimension to listening to music on headphones," Raoofi said. "But if there is little beyond this, I don't believe it's truly innovative."

There may yet be something beyond, however. Seaberg noted that one big improvement to the tech since the "Pausa" re-release has been to increase the volume threshold the technology can reach, which he said "is very important in perceptual audio because the ear naturally thinks that louder is better."

Joshua said the company has made special efforts to ensure that listeners need not own specific hardware or software — such as expensive headsets or stereo systems —that might put the technology out of reach for some.

"Ricky wanted a kid in Colombia walking barefoot with the headphones he found to be able to hear it," Joshua said.

"This to me is like the evolution from black-and-white TV to color and I want everyone to be able to experience it," Martin added.

The company will provide a "concierge service" to work with artists who want to use the technology. Tapping their extensive industry connections, Martin and Joshua have plans to work with several other artists, including A$AP Rocky, Bad Bunny and Rosalia. Joshua and Seaberg are excited by the creative output that could result from planning upfront to use Orbital Audio, rather than retroactively applying it as they did with "Pausa".

The L.A.-based startup has ten employees and plans to grow, Joshua said. It has "already turned down multiple offers to sell the technology" and is "in talks with several VC firms" to raise funding. It plans to generate revenue through royalty-based agreements with artists and potentially an upfront fee.

The team currently works out of Joshua's studio in North Hollywood but, he said, "[we're] looking for spots and places where we can expand immediately."

Though music is the beachhead application, the company hopes to expand into other areas.

"What we've created here can be beneficial for everything ranging from music to gaming to sports to health care," Martin aid.

"Imagine meditating and hearing the Tibetan mountains around you and having 100 monks chanting around you at the same time," Joshua said.

Quite a departure from "Livin' La Vida Loca" and "She Bangs."

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If the rule is to follow the money, then VC deal flow shows how singularly bad this pandemic has been for female entrepreneurs compared to their male peers.

By and large, anytime a woman was involved in the founding of a company, venture capital investment dollars dropped significantly and there were fewer dollars per deal overall, according to a dot.LA analysis of year-over-year Q3 PitchBook data for Los Angeles, the Bay Area and Seattle.

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Kara Nortman is already widely regarded as one of the top VCs in Los Angeles. Now, she is getting a promotion to make it official.

Upfront Ventures, the Santa Monica firm with more than $2 billion in assets under management that Norman joined as partner in 2014, announced Monday she will become Co-Managing Partner.

Nortman will share the new title with Yves Sisteron, who founded the firm in 1996, and Mark Suster, who came aboard in 2007. But Nortman is quick to point out she's not replacing anyone.

"Yves is not going anywhere and Mark is not going anywhere, but he is 10 years older than me, so I have to be pretty good at this hopefully by the time I'm in my 50s," said Nortman, 44. "It really is an apprenticeship."

Nortman says she is taking a more active role in raising capital for Upfront's next $270 million fund (the firm raises a new vehicle every three years.) Citing SEC regulations, she declined to go into specifics but said fundraising is "going great."

As a native Angeleno, Nortman is a tireless cheerleader of the city's growing tech scene. In 2022, she will also be cheering on Angel City Football Club, L.A.'s new women's professional soccer team she co-founded with top celebrities like Natalie Portman and Serena Williams.

Norman's promotion also makes her one of the few women who have ascended to the highest ranks of venture capital.

She is a founding member of All Raise, a nonprofit advocating for female founders and funders and a board member of TIME'S UP, created by women in Hollywood to fight harassment and discrimination. In an interview Friday, Nortman talked about her new role, how she gets along with Suster and what investments she's most proud of. She also talked about the fate of the lavish Upfront Summit, which normally brings hundreds of investors and founders to L.A. every January for several days of glitzy parties and panels.

What will this new role entail and how will you split duties with the other managing partners?

It will feel like a big shift maybe to the outside, but it's been a very gradual evolution. In a lot of ways I've already been stepping into this role over the last year or so and doing more on the leadership front, like strategy, hiring and building relationships with the LPs, which is an interesting part of the business. I've always met LPs, but it's almost like moving from the trunk to the back seat to the passenger seat to the driver's seat.

From the outside, you and Mark Suster seem to have such different personalities. Can you give us a window into how you work together?

The funny thing is Mark and I have a lot of similarities. How would I describe our working relationship? It's the best I've had in my career. That doesn't mean it's not without friction at times. It doesn't mean in the early years we didn't bump heads when I thought I knew the business really well because I had done it at Battery Ventures for five years a decade earlier and it had changed a little bit. I had to evolve and understand how to operate in a different market at a different time and all those different things. He's been hard on me but in ways that have really helped me learn and evolve. And now we have very productive differences of opinions and he's still probably right 90% of the time. But in a lot of cases, there is no right.

When you say he's been hard on you, what's an example of something that he has changed about you or tried to change?

He cares deeply about giving me real feedback and that's not always been easy to hear. I think about a performance review I had two or three years ago where I think he typed me up a 10-page essay on my strengths and weaknesses with specific examples and it really kind of changed the way I invested.

I almost have this innate, positive energy that I used to call anxiety around making sure I meet the best people that we can invest in. I was so interested in getting in front of everything that I'd say one of the best things Mark did for me was slow me down. It really kind of goes to a place of developing your own point of view. And I think it's an important thing for women in this industry in particular. We want more people of color to be in leadership roles in this industry. But if we're all using the same inputs as everybody else and making decisions in the same way you just chase a little bit better. You're not actually going to leverage the important part of diversity, which is getting different kinds of thinkers with different kinds of networks.

Now that you are one of the few female VCs in a position of top leadership, what do you see as the key to further breaking up the boys' club and diversifying VC firms?

Once you're a woman or a person of color in a VC firm, it is making sure other talented people like you get hired, but also hiring people who are not totally like you. You have to make room for different kinds of people. And how do you empower those people? How do you support their process of making investments so they can win things when they don't have a huge portfolio? How do you bring the weight of the firm behind their process? It's really hard in the beginning. And so those first two years and having an awareness around mentorship and allowing that person to make mistakes and giving them the room to go slowly and get things wrong and really speak and have presence and feel like in their comfort zone is really important.

Over your decade-plus of doing this in L.A., what investment are you most proud of?

That's like asking to pick your favorite child! (laughs).

Is that an unfair question?

Totally! I'll just mention a few different things. When I got to L.A., the first startup I was involved with was Tinder. I recruited Sean Rad into IAC [the holding company that owns brands across 100 countries] to build something totally different, and during a hackathon, he built Tinder. It's turned out to be one of the biggest brands of its time.

Then I would go to a company like Fleetsmith, which was bought by Apple earlier this year in the middle of COVID when no one was buying anything. [The startup automates Apple device management.] I got to know those guys when they were just starting. I did their $7 million Series A and they were talking about things at the time that everybody thought was a little bit nuts. While they were in the Bay Area all three founders were from L.A. and this is a Mac town. I think I got the Mac thesis pretty quickly at a time when it was not as obvious and everyone was like, "if Apple's not doing it, there must be a reason."

A final one I'll mention is Parachute Home, which was my very first investment when I got to Upfront. [It makes modern bedding, bath, linens and other home decor essentials.] I think it reflects all the great parts of L.A. But it is built on technology. The headless eCom platform they built with data science around driving repeat rates and increasing load times is done so incredibly well.

What can you tell us about next year's Upfront Summit?

We are definitely doing something and it's going to be in a different form. Obviously, in a COVID world it's not going to be what it was in in 2020.

How much time are you spending on Angel City?

It's an important part of my life and my community but we have a full time CEO who is exceptional, Julie Irman.

What has surprised me is how much overlap there is between my day job and Angel City. One of those things about L.A. is we can sit at the intersection of tech, business, brand, celebrity and really think about community. I may take things away from my DevOps cloud cyber security companies by how we're building community at Angel City because they're doing very similar things where they're testing open source strategies. It sounds a little bit of a stretch, but I really like to think about systems and how different parts of my life influence my job.

***This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity.

**Upfront Ventures is an investor in dot.LA.

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