LA Venture: UP Partners’ Ben Marcus on the Changes Coming to Aerospace

Minnie Ingersoll
Minnie Ingersoll is a partner at TenOneTen and host of the LA Venture podcast. Prior to TenOneTen, Minnie was the COO and co-founder of $100M+ Shift.com, an online marketplace for used cars. Minnie started her career as an early product manager at Google. Minnie studied Computer Science at Stanford and has an MBA from HBS. She recently moved back to L.A. after 20+ years in the Bay Area and is excited to be a part of the growing tech ecosystem of Southern California. In her space time, Minnie surfs baby waves and raises baby people.
UP Partners’ Ben Marcus stands in front of a airplane.​
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UP Partners’ Ben Marcus has been fascinated by flight since he was young. After stints as a founder of aerospace startups, he’s now working on funding some of the most ambitious companies in the space.

Marcus joined this episode of LA Venture to talk about his fascination with flying, founding UP Partners and the future of transportation.


Marcus and his longtime best friend Cyrus Sigari met at the Santa Monica airport as kids. The two shared a love for everything involving planes. They ended up going to college together, became pilots – and eventually started their first company together, jetAVIVA, the world's largest broker of business jets.

As a young pilot, Marcus said he would fly over the traffic on the freeway asking himself, "Why is it that I'm one of the lucky ones that gets to be up here in the sky and everybody else is stuck in traffic? How do I get all these people up here in the sky with me?"

Marcus went on to found Airmap, a company that became a leading provider of an unmanned aircraft traffic management software. Now at UP Partners, a a $230M Fund I investing in entrepreneurs who are making transportation better, Marcus still has his hands in the aviation world – in particular, in laying the groundwork for a new infrastructure for a new breed of aerial vehicles.

He’s also deeply interested in how to move goods in more efficient and safer ways. Zipline, one of their portfolio companies, is focused on delivering humanitarian aid, including blood and medicine, to the places that need it most.

"For a long time, we've been hearing about Amazon, maybe someday delivering your toilet paper or your toothbrush by drone. But today, Zipline is delivering thousands of packages a day using drones in Africa," said Marcus.

UP Partners is looking to support companies that are innovating in automation and electrification, Marcus said. Autonomy and automation in flight advanced beyond other sectors some time ago. Passenger and commercial 747s have been capable of auto landing for decades. The difficulty, Marcus said, has been in convincing FAA regulators to embrace innovation.

"So how do you take this really fantastic technology and make it acceptable to the public and fit within a regulatory construct?," said Marcus. He envisions a slow roll out of the type of technology that can change the industry, most likely in cargo planes testing automation in rural environments where there are fewer people in harm's way. Eventually, as it proves itself, he said, automation will find broader acceptance in passenger vehicles.

Electrification is another game-changing technology Marcus sees on the horizon. Because electric batteries don't last as long as a typical fuel, Marcus thinks the technology will first roll out to aircrafts flying below 3,000 feet, on shorter-distance flights. Still, he thinks there could be far more of those flights, for instance, turning a 45-minute drive from Santa Monica to Pasadena into a 5 minute ride.

"These aircrafts will be quiet. They won't emit any carbon when they fly. They will be fast, smooth, comfortable — and I think we'll develop a very compelling service," said Marcus.

dot.LA Engagement Intern Joshua Letona contributed to this post.

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Why Pierced Media Is Betting on Creators To Be The Next Generation of Podcast Stars

Nat Rubio-Licht
Nat Rubio-Licht is a freelance reporter with dot.LA. They previously worked at Protocol writing the Source Code newsletter and at the L.A. Business Journal covering tech and aerospace. They can be reached at nat@dot.la.
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NASA’s JPL Receives Billions to Begin Understanding Our Solar System

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Samson Amore is a reporter for dot.LA. He holds a degree in journalism from Emerson College and previously covered technology and entertainment for TheWrap and reported on the SoCal startup scene for the Los Angeles Business Journal. Send tips or pitches to samsonamore@dot.la and find him on Twitter @Samsonamore.

NASA’s JPL Receives Billions to Begin Understanding Our Solar System
Evan Xie

NASA’s footprint in California is growing as the agency prepares for Congress to approve its proposed 2024 budget.

The overall NASA budget swelled 6% from the prior year, JPL deputy director Larry James told dot.LA. He added he sees that as a continuation of the last two presidential administrations’ focus on modernizing and bolstering the nation’s space program.

The money goes largely to existing NASA centers in California, including the Pasadena-based Jet Propulsion Laboratory run with Caltech, Ames Research Center in Silicon Valley and Armstrong Flight Research Center at Edwards Air Force Base.

California remains a hotspot for NASA space activity and investment. In 2021, the agency estimated its economic output impact on the region to be around $15.2 billion. That was far more than its closest competing states, including Texas ($9.3 billion) and Maryland (roughly $8 billion). That same year, NASA reported it employed over 66,000 people in California.

“In general, Congress has been very supportive” of the JPL and NASA’s missions, James said. “It’s generally bipartisan [and] supported by both sides of the aisle. In the last few years in general NASA has been able to have increased budgets.”

There are 41 current missions run by JPL and CalTech, and another 16 scheduled for the future. James added the new budget is “an incredible support for all the missions we want to do.”

The public-private partnership between NASA and local space companies continues to evolve, and the increased budget could be a boon for LA-based developers. Numerous contractors for NASA (including CalTech, which runs the JPL), Boeing, Lockheed Martin, SpaceX and Northrop Grumman all stand to gain new contracts once the budget is finalized, partly because NASA simply needs the private industry’s help to achieve all its goals.

James said that there was only one JPL mission that wasn’t funded – a mission to send an orbital satellite to survey the surface and interior of Venus, called VERITAS.

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The Moon and Mars

Much of the money earmarked in the proposed 2024 budget is for crewed missions. Overall, NASA’s asking for $8 billion from Congress to fund lunar exploration missions. As part of this, the majority is earmarked for the upcoming Artemis mission, which aims to land a woman and person of color on the Moon’s south pole.

While there’s a number of high-profile missions the JPL is working on that are focused on Mars, including Mars Sample Return project (which received $949 million in this proposed budget) and Ingenuity helicopter and Perseverance rover, JPL also received significant funding to study the Earth’s climate and behavior.

JPL also got funding for several projects to map our universe. One is the SphereX Near Earth Objects surveyor mission, the goal of which is to use telescopes to “map the entire universe,” James said, adding that the mission was fully funded.

International Space Station

NASA’s also asking for more money to maintain the International Space Station (ISS), which houses a number of projects dedicated to better understanding the Earth’s climate and behavior.

The agency requested roughly $1.3 billion to maintain the ISS. It also is increasing its investment in space flight support, in-space transportation and commercial development of low-earth orbit (LEO). “The ISS is an incredible platform for us,” James said.

James added there are multiple missions outside or on board the ISS now taking data, including EMIT, which launched in July 2022. The EMIT mission studies arid dust sources on the planet using spectroscopy. It uses that data to remodel how mineral dust movement in North and South America might affect the Earth’s temperature changes.

Another ISS mission JPL launched is called ECOSTRESS. The mission sent a thermal radiometer onto the space station in June 2018 to monitor how plants lose water through their leaves, with the goal of figuring out how the terrestrial biosphere reacts to changes in water availability. James said the plan is to “tell you the kind of foliage health around the globe” from space.

One other ISS project is called Cold Atom Lab. It is “an incredible fundamental physics machine,” James said, that’s run by “three Nobel Prize winners as principal investigators on the Space Station.” Cold Atom Lab is a physics experiment geared toward figuring out how quantum phenomena behave in space by cooling atoms with lasers to just below absolute zero degrees.

In the long term, James was optimistic NASA’s imaging projects could lead to more dramatic discoveries. Surveying the makeup of planets’ atmospheres is a project “in the astrophysics domain we’re very excited about,” James said. He added that this imaging could lead to information about life on other planets, or, at the very least, an understanding of why they’re no longer habitable.

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Decerry Donato

Decerry Donato is a reporter at dot.LA. Prior to that, she was an editorial fellow at the company. Decerry received her bachelor's degree in literary journalism from the University of California, Irvine. She continues to write stories to inform the community about issues or events that take place in the L.A. area. On the weekends, she can be found hiking in the Angeles National forest or sifting through racks at your local thrift store.

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